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folding KK preflop to RAISE / ALL-IN

By: jon playre

There are two side to this choice.
First, is the mathematical/tactical side. Strictly from this side, its a call per my post above. It is not a gambol to place your money in the pot as a massive favorite with your villain only having 2 or 3 outs. That is the definition of +EV.
Second, is the mental/strategic side. If getting it in winning ~84% of the time versus MP's range and losing is going to make you either lose a substantial amount of more money immediately or in the near future, good fold, time to work on that massive leak.

But if that kind of loss does not adversely effect you over the short term (you can get up, go home and come back tomorrow and play your A game) then it was a bad fold. Time to work on that massive leak.
Bottom line, you can not fear taking a bad beat. You have to be able to deal with the bad beats. Anything less will eventually result in a busto situation.
The time to worry is if you get 3 bet, you 4 bet and then he raises again, that's when you worry he may have AA, but if someone just 3 bet shoves- it should be a snap call cos not many people play AA that badly
When players just shove all in, very often they don't really want to get called!
Ok -- here's the lesson, from my point of view.

If you're not willing to make an all-in bet with less than the nuts, you shouldn't be at the table. Get up, cash out, get a cup of coffee, and come back with a buy-in you're comfortable losing, should it come to that.

This being said -- If you're ever at a table, and decide that you can't afford or don't want to lose the bet, fold and get up. So, having folded, I hope you immediately racked up and left the table.
As to the hand.
I can only think of three situations where I'd ever fold KK pre-flop.
1. You've seen the other guy's cards, and they're AA.
2. You've played with the other guy ALOT, and you KNOW, I mean REALLY KNOW that he only pushes all in pre-flop with AA.
3. You're in SB or BB and it's a chop situation (especially if you've chopped before at the table). This one has actually happened to me with both KK and AA



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